The author Jordi Casamitjana interviews Jane Velez-Mitchell, the award-winning vegan journalist, founder of UNCHAINEDTV
I did not plan it.
I have professionally worked in animal protection most of my adult life (literally, 70% of it), and most of the jobs I chose were selected by me as part of my plan to cover as many animal issues as possible, and use the skills and knowledge I have accumulated over the years to the max. However, I did not plan my current profession. I did not plan to become a journalist.
This just happened to me, and the fact it did has contributed to me avoiding defining myself as a journalist — as if I did not deserve it. I prefer to call myself a writer who writes books, blogs, scripts, opinion pieces, and also news articles. I did not study journalism, I mostly write in my fourth language — yes, there is still an element of “impostor syndrome” lingering there — I do not have a press card — it costs too much money to get one, and you need to be sponsored by other journalists, at least in the UK — and I do not work in mainstream media. However, I do work in the vegan media, I am in the Muckrack database of journalists, and my portfolio there features over 2,500 articles written (all but about 10 being commissioned work I was remunerated for), most of them news articles, reviews, and interviews — the stuff journalists do. So, yes, I must admit, I am now a freelance journalist of sorts, even if I did not plan it.
This happened because I won a two-year litigation case that led to the recognition of ethical veganism as a protected philosophical belief under the UK Equality Act 2010 (what in the US is called a “protected class”), which then led to a publisher asking me to write “how I did it” in a book, which then led to the publication of my book “Ethical Vegan”, which then led to several organisations asking me to write some blogs for them, which then led to other organisations commission me to write articles for them, which finally led to me being able to make a living as a freelance content writer for the last five years — none of this planned, but just happened.
One of my regular clients is the US vegan streaming TV network UNCHAINEDTV, and on 11th March 2021, I sent them my first invoice for writing an article about Vegan Rights. I have been writing articles for them almost every week since, and that’s thanks to Jane Velez-Mitchell, the award-winning journalist and founder of the network.
As part of her journalistic work, Jane had interviewed me for her channel (at the time called Jane Unchained) after the publication of my book, and she has become one of my main clients since. This month is the fifth anniversary of our journalistic relationship, so I think it’s time to celebrate by interviewing her and writing an in-depth article about her inspiring life and career as a vegan journalist. So, buckle up and enjoy.
Jane’s Vegan Journey

I have been vegan for decades, but Jane has been vegan longer than I have. The vegan experience is something that changes over time and place, so I always like to write about vegan journeys people have gone through because I think this would be inspiring to many new vegans and vegan-curious people whose attention may gravitate more toward the human story than toward the ethical theory. The longer one person has been vegan, the more interesting their vegan journey is to me, so I was eager to listen to Jane’s recollection of hers:
“I grew up in Midtown Manhattan, raised from about eight years on directly across the street from Carnegie Hall — you cannot get more centrally located in Manhattan than that. My dad was Irish, an advertising executive, right out of Mad Men. My mother was Puerto Rican, a very glamorous, sexy dancer. She was the last of the vaudeville acts performed at the Palace Theatre and had her own Latin dance troupe.
Dad was a meat-eater until he met my mother. She was into yoga — before anybody really knew what yoga was — so she was doing all sorts of avant-garde things. Part of that was not eating meat. She wasn’t strictly a vegetarian, but we were, I would say, a pescatarian-ish household. We did not have meat in the house, although we did have fish and eggs. They weren’t big dairy drinkers or any of that. At least I was aware that things that showed up on your plate came from an animal, and for the most part, we did not eat that. So, that was a good start — at that time, the word vegan wasn’t really around at all.
My mother was into health. For a while, they did macrobiotics. My parents loved to try things on for size. They were experimental. I was grateful to have those kinds of parents who were a little kooky but experimental.
After I graduated from college at NYU, I went off to be a journalist. One day, someone sent me a videotape of head injury experiments being done on primates. It was the most horrifying thing I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s when I worked in Philadelphia, around the time that PETA was just getting started, in 1981. I just knew that what they were doing to these animals was really evil and morally wrong. It was beyond comprehension; dropping huge metal things on their heads while playing rock music. It just seemed literally like a horror movie.
At that moment, I didn’t know what to do about it, but I knew something really awful was happening, and it stuck in my mind. Then, as I progressed in my career, I went back to New York City, back to the same block I grew up on, and I worked at WCBS-TV.
I moved to LA in 1990 and was working at Paramount Studios for Disney’s KCAL-TV, a local news station, as an anchor. In 1998, in walks Howard Lyman, who was in the news after appearing on Oprah and spilling meat industry secrets, resulting in Oprah being sued by cattlemen. She won and Lyman was suddenly famous. He was a fourth-generation cattle rancher who had gotten very ill. He had had thousands of cattle and was doing all sorts of factory farming, and he made a pact with God: ‘if you get me out of this medical emergency, I will reveal the secrets of the industry’ — that’s how I remember it anyway.
After interviewing this legendary cattleman turned vegan activist, he and his publicist, Marr Nealon, came up to my cubicle, and she said, ‘We hear you’re a vegetarian.’ By that time, I was a vegetarian, and I had progressed from being a pescatarian to a vegetarian, so I said ‘yes’, very proudly. She then said, ‘Do you eat dairy?’ I kind of hung my head, and I said ‘yes’. She then took her finger and went right up my nose, saying, ‘Liquid meat!!’ That was the moment I went vegan, when she tapped my nose and said, ‘Liquid meat!’ really loudly.
It got through to me. If she had been oh so very polite and said some pablum about, ‘Well, maybe you should reconsider your diet,’ I don’t think I would have heard it. She was very forceful, right in my face. I just run into her from time to time, and I always thank her. I say, ‘You’re the woman who turned me vegan.’ That was 28 years ago, and from that moment on, I was vegan.”
Jane’s “Mainstream” Professional Journey

Jane is an award-winning television journalist and best-selling author, now specialising in veganism and animal rights, but during her career, she also addressed other issues, such as addiction and justice. She is now mostly known for her TV network UNCHAINEDTV, a very important part of the “vegan media”, but she had been at the heart of mainstream media for many years. She is not like me, an activist who, without planning it, has become a journalist. No, she is a proper career journalist who, possibly without planning it either, became an animal rights activist.
Her list of journalistic awards is very impressive. She received the Gracie Allen Award from the Foundation of American Women in Radio and Television, the Celebrity Animal Activist Award at the Animal Rights 2009 National Conference held in Los Angeles, the Genesis Award for her CNN Headline News TV show “Issues”, Mercy for Animals’ Compassionate Leadership Award, the Nanci Alexander Award at PETA’s 35th anniversary celebration, the Ruby Award by Soroptimist International for her “War on Women” coverage on her television show, a Los Angeles Emmy for her reporting at KCAL-TV, a shared New York Emmy for her reporting at WCBS-TV, and others. She explains how she got to where she is now:
“I was always very interested in politics and issues — I was that kid leafleting outside the high school. So, I was interviewed a couple of times when I was a teenager by TV news stations in New York, and it kind of got stuck in my head. Without thinking very much of it, I just wrote ‘broadcast journalism’ when I applied to college and got into it.
At first, I thought I’d wanted to be a syndicated columnist and just spout my opinions all the time, but then, because I was interviewed on TV a couple of times doing protests for various things, I decided I’d like to be a TV reporter. So, that’s exactly what I became.
I graduated from New York University with a broadcast journalism degree, and then I started in a tiny town called Fort Myers, Florida, which was like a beach party town. Part of my story is my journey to sobriety (on April 1st, 2026, I will turn 31 years sober), so I had a drinking issue then. My dad was a high-functioning alcoholic, and I followed right in his footsteps. I never drank before work, but I drank too much after work. I never got a DUI, or lost the house, the job, or the career, but it became an issue.
Then I ended up in Minneapolis, and I arrived there in the dead of winter when it was 45 degrees below zero with the wind chill — that was truly the shock of my life. I worked there for two years, but somehow, I survived. As I mentioned to you before, in 1980, I moved to Philadelphia, where I saw that videotape of the head injury experiments being done on primates that just shook me to my core.
Then I got a job at WCBS-TV located at the CBS Broadcast Center in my hometown, literally down the block from where I grew up. As a matter of fact, when I was a teenager, I used to go in there pretending I was delivering coffee. Those were the good old days when there was really no security, so a friend and I walked up with some coffee and said, ‘Coffee delivery.’ We’d go into the CBS Broadcast Center and walk through the whole building, make friends with people, walk into studios where they were doing live national broadcasts, and watch them from behind the camera. I ended up working in that same building as a reporter and weekend anchor.
After being there eight years, working hard and going to all sorts of violent crimes, covering all sorts of very intense things, I wanted to get out of town. In L.A., Disney had purchased, or had taken over, a local news station, and they were going to revolutionise local news. They were looking for an anchor, and my friend, who had been a colleague at WCBS who had gotten a job there, recommended me. I went out for an audition, and I got the job. That was the best job I’ve ever had.
We were all hired at the same time, so we all made friends. Usually, when you go into a newsroom, you’re going into a group of entrenched people who are suspicious of outsiders sometimes, but in this case, everybody was hired at the same time, and it was just a fun group. They, like me, liked to party. We would go out dancing at night.
It was really one of the most fun jobs I’ve ever had, not to mention working at Paramount Studios. You’d go to the cafeteria, and there’d be a Klingon over here, and somebody from the Wizard of Oz to your left. It was super fun.”
Jane’s “Vegan” Professional Journey

Gradually, Jane’s professional career moved from the mainstream to the alternative, incorporating animal and veganism stories in her journalistic work and eventually becoming a full-time activist/journalist for vegan media. This is how she got there:
“After I interviewed Howard Lyman, and the second I went vegan, everything changed in my mind. All of a sudden, I started seeing everything through a new set of glasses.
Also, it helped that I had gotten sober. Three miracles I’ve had in my life. First, getting sober, then I went vegan, and then I came out as gay. I call these my three miracles. So, once I went vegan, I started seeing everything differently.
I started having arguments. There was a rodeo kicker story. We usually end the news with a happy story, and they would put in a rodeo story, and I’d say, ‘I’m not going to read this, this isn’t fun, this is torture.’ So, I started making a lot of trouble. Once, I got into a tug-of-war with another anchor who had live lobsters delivered to her.
After about 12 years there, management changed, and I left. I had been working at LA’s KCBS for just a few months when I got a call from my friend Harvey Levin, who is now the famous TMZ host and executive producer. We used to go karaoke-ing together. He said, ‘I’m starting this show called Celebrity Justice, and I can’t find any reporters.’ I said, ‘Well, what about me?’
Celebrity Justice turned out to be my big break. Celebrities didn’t like us. They would hang up, the publicists hung up, they would run from us, literally. So, at that moment, I had gotten involved with PETA, and I thought, ‘You know what? I see a way to not only solve the problem of getting stories for us, but also do something for animal rights.’
I worked with PETA to do stories with celebrities who had animal issues they cared about so much that they would talk to us about their animal issues. So, we ended up winning a couple of Genesis Awards for our reporting on animal issues there.
I even got an interview with Robert Redford, who was advocating for whales devastated by military sonar. Then, I ended up covering the Michael Jackson trial, which was globally televised. I ended up being the reporter for Nancy Grace’s TV show for the entire trial, live from Santa Maria, California, pretty much every night of the trial, which was every day for months. After that, I started filling in for Nancy Grace on CNN Headline News.
Celebrity Justice ended, and one day, I was just sitting at my kitchen table having coffee, and I got a call. They said, ‘How would you like your own show on CNN Headline News?’ I said, ‘I’d love it.’ They said, ‘Great, we’re going to call it Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell.’ I said, ‘Great, because I’ve got a lot of issues.’ Then, I just had the inspiration to ask this question: ‘Would you mind if I did a little animal segment once a week?’ They thought about it, there was a pause for about 10 seconds, and they said, ‘That sounds fine.’
They probably thought I was going to do pet adoptions or something like that, but as soon as I got in there, I started doing hardcore animal rights. I had the show for six years, and pretty much every Friday we did an animal rights segment.
In 2014, the show ran its course, and it wrapped up. That happens. Six years is a good run for national TV. Before then, I was not able to go to protests — because as a reporter, you really can’t go to protests and just do your own thing — so after the show ended, I went to my first protest in Brooklyn. There were about 200 people there protesting Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey Circus, probably in the winter of 2015. That was before Facebook Live. I had a little GoPro camera, my hand was shaking because it was so cold, and I said, ‘Well, if all these people can stand here in the cold, I can start reporting.’ That was one of my first personal reports.
After my mother died, I moved back out to LA. I was able to stay in New York for my mom’s last breath. She lived to 99 and a half, and she was sharp up to literally the day before. She was completely cogent. I do attribute her diet to that. She had essentially become pretty much vegan. I mean, if somebody brought her a little cheese, she would eat it, but that was not something that she sought out. So, I think she was a living example of how a plant-based diet can keep your brain sharp. And I do have a little documentary I did on her on UNCHAINEDTV, since she’s my inspiration for the whole journey — and it’s called Anita Velez: Dancing Through Life.
Back out to LA, in 2016, I realised Facebook said that you could go live on it, and I wanted to see if the live stream would work on my deck outside. I happened to have some glamorous people there for a vegan cookout and I just went live on my phone and quickly noticed that I was getting a lot of views and comments. So, I decided to do something called Lunch Break Live. Every single day from that moment on, we went live at 12.30 pm pacific time on Facebook with a different chef cooking a different vegan meal. One year, we got 17 million views.
It really took off because it was right after Facebook said it could go live to the public. So, for a couple of years, it was just going gangbusters. After that, the views started to go down because Facebook changed the algorithms. So, it went from thousands of views to several hundred views, to 300 views, to 200 views. So, we knew it had kind of run its course.
I had done a documentary about the brilliant environmental systems analyst Dr Sailesh Rao called Countdown to Year Zero, and a friend of mine had her documentary on Amazon Prime. I asked her, ‘How’d you do that? How’d you get it on there?’ She gave me the name of an Irish producer named Eamonn McCrystal, who was a former Irish tenor and a very talented guy. He got our documentary on Amazon Prime, and then he said, ‘Why don’t you do a cooking series?’ I said, ‘OK’, so we got a whole studio. We held a fundraiser to raise money for it.
We called it ‘New Day, New Chef’, and we did this cooking series that won Taste Awards, which is considered the Oscars of food programming. It was a huge hit on Amazon Prime. There were a lot of celebrities. We had John Salley, the NBA legend. We’ve had Miyoko Schinner. We had a star from Downton Abbey, Lesley Nicol. Maggie Baird of Support & Feed did a whole season with us, and Billie Eilish even did a cameo.
The first season was very successful on Amazon Prime because it was free with Prime, but then, after a considerable amount of time, all of a sudden, one day, it wasn’t free with Prime anymore, and the views went down after that.
That’s when Eamonn said, ‘Well, why don’t you start your own streaming network?’ And I said to myself, ‘Everything seems to be going to streaming. Streaming is the new thing. Veganism needs to be on streaming as well. We can’t be left out of streaming.’ That’s when UNCHAINEDTV was born.”
UNCHAINEDTV, the Free Vegan Streaming Network

Anyone working in vegan media anywhere in the world should be aware of UNCHAINEDTV by now, because it is one of a kind. I will let Jane explain what it is:
“UNCHAINEDTV became officially a nonprofit in 2018. I remember that our party for New Day New Chef happened in 2020. That was our premiere party. It was literally the week before the whole world shut down from COVID.
It’s hard to answer exactly when our streaming network launched because – due to technical issues – we jumped from one streaming platform to another. But it was well underway by 2022. We ultimately switched to Vimeo for hosting our network, which is the top streaming platform in terms of technology.
Initially, our nonprofit was called Jane Unchained, and we officially changed its name to UNCHAINEDTV this year. I was trying to change it for a long time because what happened was that, when I started the nonprofit, the attorney said, ‘What’s the name?’ and I didn’t have a name in my head. I just said, ‘Well, because they used to call it Jane Unchained, why don’t you just call it Jane Unchained News Network?’ Well, I regretted that, because it’s not about me. Why did I call it that? And I’ve been trying to undo that ever since.
UNCHAINEDTV is the world’s only free nonprofit streaming and FAST channel TV network for the vegan, animal rights, cruelty-free lifestyle. So, there are other conservation streaming networks; there are other wildlife streaming networks, but we provide a living history of the vegan/animal rights movement in real time.
We call ourselves the vegan CNN Netflix because we do entertainment programming, but we also do news. We do videos, but we also produce a lot of written articles — in fact, you’re our key writer. So, we’re sort of trying to do it all.
On the UNCHAINEDTV streaming network, we have more than 2000 videos, we have award-winning documentaries, reality TV series, vegan cooking and travel series, celebrity profiles, podcasts, and we have LIVE news events. Recently, we were live as prominent activist/attorney Wayne Hsiung led about 100 people into a beagle breeding facility in Wisconsin, and we were, I believe, the only news organisation covering that dramatic rescue live as it happened.
I think it’s very important for the vegan animal rights community to treat us as a legitimate news organisation because, let’s face it, mainstream media isn’t doing us any favours. One of the reasons that I started this is because I was in mainstream media for so many years — for 37 years to be exact — and I can tell you that they’re not going to give fair coverage for the most part to our issues because look at the advertisers: Big Meat and Big Pharma. Those are the two industries that would collapse if people went plant-based. We keep genuflecting in front of mainstream media, hoping, praying, and begging for better coverage.
The truth is, you literally have to risk going to prison or get naked to be guaranteed mainstream media coverage. PETA has lots of lawyers. They do Freedom of Information Act requests. They publish extremely in-depth information, news releases, press conferences, etc. Does the media cover that? No. So, they have to do something outlandish to lure in the media, and then the media says, ‘Look how outlandish they are.’ And that’s true of a lot of organisations. Direct Action Everywhere just released this incredible interactive map of the factory farms in California, showing that California is the largest dairy state, revealing some extremely disturbing information about what’s happening on some of those farms. The only story that I saw about that — and I could be wrong, as I haven’t checked lately — was Vox’s independent media — and I think the journalist who wrote it, should be given an award for that.
In fact, UNCHAINEDTV is thinking of restarting the old Genesis Awards under a new name. Reporters love awards. Why? Because they work hard all the time, generally without much appreciation, and awards are job security. We need to give awards to the reporters who are doing really good jobs out there, and Marina Bolotnikova is one of those independent media journalists doing incredible reporting. I’ve tried to get some of the big organisations to start the awards show again, but I got crickets. So, UNCHAINEDTV may be starting that — watch this space, as they say.
One of the fascinating things about our network is that it’s everywhere and it’s totally free. You can watch it online at unchained.tv or watch.unchainedtv.com, but you can also go to unchainedtv.com and get there — that’s where most of our written articles are. If you have an Amazon Fire Stick, a Roku device, or an Apple TV device, you can download it onto your TV. If you have a Samsung TV or an LG TV, it’s embedded in there as an app that you can download. You just type in UnchainedTV, and you can download it and put it on your TV’s home screen. And, it’s a free app on all cell phones. Just download it from your phone’s app store. The great thing about it is that, if you do the phone app, you can text the videos to people. If there’s a video that you want people to see — there’s the Mass Beagle Rescue, or the Golden Age of Plant-Based Foods that we just did — you can text that to people. We’re also on FAST channels like Vesta — let’s not underestimate the fast channels, free ad-supported television. We have about 14 different global platforms that run a channel called UNCHAINEDTV.
In 2024, across all platforms, including social media and collaborations, we had 20 million views. We more than doubled in one year to more than 50 million views in 2025.
UnchainedTV is also breaking new ground on the entertainment front, with our original reality programming. Kale Krew is our popular vegan travel show hosted by Nemanja Golubovic, who owns Chicago’s Kale My Name vegan restaurant. Our Green Goddesses series stars Grand Hotel star Justina Adorno and social media star Jamie Logan. And, our Pig Little Lies series is the first reality TV series starring pigs. It’s adorable and reveals the emotional lives of pigs.”
Addiction and Veganism

Jane is also an accomplished author, and one of her main topics is addiction. In 2007, she published “Secrets Can Be Murder: What America’s Most Sensational Crimes Tell Us About Ourselves”, in 2009 “iWant: My Journey from Addiction and Overconsumption to a Simpler, Honest Life”, in 2011 “Addict Nation: An Intervention for America”, and in 2013 “Exposed: The Secret Life of Jodi Arias”. I read iWant, and I liked it very much, as it’s her autobiography where she narrates the story of her changes — as she put it, “from insanity to clarity, from egocentricity to altruism, from alcoholism to activism.” She told me more about that part of her career:
“I’ve written four books. iWant was a New York Times bestseller, and so was a crime book. I also wrote a book called Addict Nation, with Sandra Mohr, about how our entire culture is what they call addictogenic. There’s no better customer than an addict. So, food addiction, for example, is huge. They pack fast food with sugar, salt and fat. Three ingredients that we are biologically pre-programmed to crave to get us through times of famine. There are a lot of examples of how people are making a lot of money by getting people addicted.
I was genetically pre-programmed. My dad was a high-functioning alcoholic. A lot of people on his side of the family suffered from alcoholism. So, I got the bug; I got the gene. Once I started drinking, it was very hard for me to just have a glass of wine and call it a night. So, I hit bottom, making a fool of myself at a party in Hollywood at Harvey’s house. The thing that came together for me was that a friend of mine I used to party with, had gotten sober, and he was bugging me to get sober. So, the morning after I had made a fool of myself at that party, I called him, and I said, ‘You’re right, I have a problem. Let’s get some help.’ And now, I haven’t had a drink in 31 years.
How does this connect with veganism? It does, because it’s a perfect analogy. I thought when I got sober, ‘Well, I’ll never go to a party again. I’ll never go dancing again. I’ll never karaoke again. I’ll never have fun again. It’s all over. Life’s going to be dreary, drudgery, blah, blah.’ And nothing could be further from the truth. I go to parties, I have a lot of fun, I dance, and I don’t necessarily do karaoke, but I still have a good time. And it’s the same thing with veganism. People think that if they give up meat, they’ll never enjoy a dinner again, they’ll never go to a party again, and their friends will abandon them. And none of that is really true. You can enjoy food even more, and you have more fun.
I keep reading these articles about people who are isolated in their neighbourhoods and alone, and I want to say to them, ‘go vegan.’ We have a great social life. I could literally, if I wanted to, go out every single night to a different vegan event. I generally go out maybe twice or three times a week. I’m not hellbent on being out that often, and I usually go where I can take my vegan dogs, Sunday and Wednesday. I just want to let everybody know that it’s a fun lifestyle, just like I found out that sobriety is a fun lifestyle.
The thing is that it does take time to transition. There is going to be a physical withdrawal period for both, where your body is detoxing — and yes, you will experience some cravings. But I will say that I was a very cynical person until I got sober. I had not a religious or spiritual thought in my head, really, and then I experienced a miracle. I got help, and I had a psychic shift in my head.
My craving for alcohol vanished to the point of 80 or 90% overnight. What they say is that some people change quickly and some people change slowly, but honestly, it was like something snapped in my brain. I said to myself, ‘I’m free, I don’t have to have a drink tonight.’ I think that people can have a psychic shift in their brains when it comes to eating animals. It’s not a question of willpower.
The dichotomy with any addiction is that the only power you have is the power to realise you are powerless. If you can’t negotiate successfully with a substance, a behaviour or another person, you’re addicted to it, and the only power you have is to walk away. So, that’s what I would say to people who are having cravings: just walk away, let the body detox, and in 30 days, you could have a psychic shift when you realise you do not have to kill to survive.”
Jane’s book made me see we have many more things in common than I thought. In iWant she mentions that the saying “life begins at 40” kind of applied to her transformation, and it also applied to mine because I became vegan at 38. Also, she mentions that when she was growing up, two authors she was reading influenced her a lot, Herman Hesse and Franz Kafka, and they were the very first authors I read as a child. That made me think about how narrow the cultural offerings in the mid-20th century were compared with today, as two people from different countries were reading the same books at about the same time. Today, with the amount of information everybody has available, this would be far less likely, and that is why streaming channels like UNCHAINEDTV are needed. We need to flood the online space with the vegan message if we want people to get it — and not only people, but AI too, as it gets all the information it uses to “advise” people from online sources.
That’s why Jane’s form of activism is not only compensating for the lack of vegan-friendly mainstream media coverage, but it is essential for the veganism movement in today’s world, where communication has changed so much, and messages have become so volatile.
Journalism is a type of activism which is available to more people now, as we all have the technology needed to report as a professional journalist does. Jane said, “It’s really important for every single vegan to get out there on social media… It’s time to be a citizen journalist, get on your Instagram, stop saying, ‘Oh, I hate X.’ X is watched by a lot of people, and the medium is the message. We’ve got to be on all these mediums.”
I did not plan to become a journalist, but Jane not only inspired me to give it a go, but she also extended a helping hand to make it happen for me. I am deeply thankful for that.
Five years on, and Jane continues to inspire me.


